Curse

wolfwing · Sep 18, 2007, 07:44 PM // 19:44

Before anyone jumps on my case I'm saying upon completion, as in, you still need to get the 1,337,500 exp on one char to get the title...but it occurs to me that any char that finally gets this, will probably be lacking in any other titles, especially since it's a title thats restarted alot so your not likly to be doing wisdom/drunkard/treasure hunter and such on it. Meaning you will have a char with 1 title and thats it.

What I was thinking, since this is a title I doubt anyone be doing multiple times, why not make this title showable on any char once you've completed it, and can be put in the HOM one time with the char of your choice.

It just seems to me that after spending months/years getting this title, it seems odd to have it on a char that has no other titles and isn't really your main char and was only made for this title.

Winterclaw · Sep 18, 2007, 07:55 PM // 19:55

I know people who have gotten survivor 3 multiple times.

If you use the right build, it'll only take you about 15-20 hours of gameplay once you have gotten the skills.

wolfwing · Sep 18, 2007, 08:00 PM // 20:00

Hmmm, my only real point thuogh is, it's not something you can retroactivly get, and once you get it, thats it for that char probably, least for me.

Arkantos · Sep 18, 2007, 08:01 PM // 20:01

Yeah, lets make LDoA an account based title too... /sarcasm

This is quite an awful idea. It doesn't take long to get legendary survivor by farming it. Anyone could easily farm it on a monk and show it off on their assassin or something. It would also mean all your characters would have 1 maxed title in the Kind of a Big Deal title track, which is bad. /notsigned

I also don't know what you're talking about saying they'll have no other titles. Once you get it, you're free to die, so you can go and get other titles without fearing you'll lose the legendary survivor.

Res Ipsi · Sep 18, 2007, 08:09 PM // 20:09

/not signed

wolfwing · Sep 18, 2007, 08:11 PM // 20:11

Yeah, cept that you would likly not be identifying any golds on it, or opening any chests with that char among any other title thigns that you wouldn't want being lost if you fail the legendery survivor.

Arkantos · Sep 18, 2007, 08:16 PM // 20:16

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Originally Posted by wolfwing

Yeah, cept that you would likly not be identifying any golds on it, or opening any chests with that char among any other title thigns that you wouldn't want being lost if you fail the legendery survivor.

Sure, you won't specifically go chest running (until you reach legendary survivor) , but you'll still be casually opening chests when they pop up, and theres nothing stopping you from iding the golds you get.

FelixCarter · Sep 18, 2007, 08:21 PM // 20:21

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

It would also mean all your characters would have 1 maxed title in the Kind of a Big Deal title track, which is bad.

Please explain why people on Guru (even the mods, apparently) view accessable titles to the majority as a "bad thing"?

Is this for the grind? The appeal of "1337ism"? A combination of both or something else entirely?

Arkantos · Sep 18, 2007, 08:37 PM // 20:37

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Originally Posted by FelixCarter

Please explain why people on Guru (even the mods, apparently) view accessable titles to the majority as a "bad thing"?

Is this for the grind? The appeal of "1337ism"? A combination of both or something else entirely?

No, actually. It's because if the legendary survivor title was account based, every single character you have would benefit from one relatively easy task. You do it on one character, that one character deserves it, no other character.

wolfwing · Sep 18, 2007, 08:42 PM // 20:42

Nothing preventing you from Iding the golds except that they be wasted on a char that may or may not get the survivor title, I would likly transfer them over to my main char to ID. And any keys I found, least in the high end chest range I transfer too.

Arkantos · Sep 18, 2007, 08:44 PM // 20:44

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Originally Posted by wolfwing

Nothing preventing you from Iding the golds except that they be wasted on a char that may or may not get the survivor title, I would likly transfer them over to my main char to ID. And any keys I found, least in the high end chest range I transfer too.

Solution: Wait until the character becomes legendary survivor.

HawkofStorms · Sep 18, 2007, 08:48 PM // 20:48

/notsigned

No reason to do this. If you wanted it on a character, you should have done it.

FelixCarter · Sep 18, 2007, 08:57 PM // 20:57

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

No, actually. It's because if the legendary survivor title was account based, every single character you have would benefit from one relatively easy task. You do it on one character, that one character deserves it, no other character.

If it's not "grind" or "1337ism" and is so "relatively easy", then what's the difference between:

One person droning to get it on 8 seperate characters.
and
One person getting it on one character and being able to show it on all 8.

It's a title. Not a skill that effects PvP. Does a single title really hold that much power in Guild Wars? I didn't realize how much this one title effects everyone around it... Sugoi.

Arkantos · Sep 18, 2007, 09:02 PM // 21:02

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Originally Posted by FelixCarter

If it's not "grind" or "1337ism" and is so "relatively easy", then what's the difference between:

One person droning to get it on 8 seperate characters.
and
One person getting it on one character and being able to show it on all 8.

It's a title. Not a skill that effects PvP. Does a single title really hold that much power in Guild Wars? I didn't realize how much this one title effects everyone around it... Sugoi.

The difference is that one character did it, not all 8 or however many characters you have.

It's not that it effects everyone around it, it's just all the characters you own don't deserve it. It would also effect the HoM, which is going to effect GW2.

wolfwing · Sep 18, 2007, 09:19 PM // 21:19

well thats sort of the point I was thinking, with HOM allow you to chose one char that gets it. If bonuses are char based and not account based then your going to have survivor bonus one some char with nothing else.

R!ghteous Ind!gnation · Sep 18, 2007, 09:26 PM // 21:26

It shouldn't be account based due to the fact that not all characters survived.... you don't get cartographer on all characters because 1 char explored... the others didn't.

Shadowmoon · Sep 18, 2007, 09:45 PM // 21:45

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

/notsigned

No reason to do this. If you wanted it on a character, you should have done it.

Except that the game existed a year b4 the title, and it like everything else is NOT retroactive.
Also remember HoM is character based, so unless this just happens to be on your main character you get surviver it is worthless, which is my case. Same for LDoA, usually it a character specifically designed for this purpose of getting this title. For the HoM it is worthless, unless it happens to be your main.
I just wants some means for my Main to get this title, who was made b4 the title system. Either change surviver system, make it account base, or add a title transfer system similar to skill point tranfering that exist now.
My suggestion is a system that you transfer surviver title from one character to another in the same account, but that character that the title is ripped off is delited. Sorta like killing the surviver to steal credit for the achievement:P

Snow Bunny · Sep 18, 2007, 09:49 PM // 21:49

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Originally Posted by Shadowmoon

Except that the game existed a year b4 the title, and it like everything else is NOT retroactive.
Also remember HoM is character based, so unless this just happens to be on your main character you get surviver it is worthless, which is my case. Same for LDoA, usually it a character specifically designed for this purpose of getting this title. For the HoM it is worthless, unless it happens to be your main.
I just wants some means for my Main to get this title, who was made b4 the title system. Either change surviver system, make it account base, or add a title transfer system similar to skill point tranfering that exist now.
My suggestion is a system that you transfer surviver title from one character to another in the same account, but that character that the title is ripped off is delited. Sorta like killing the surviver to steal credit for the achievement:P

Oh god. Quit the QQ fest.

Who cares about your main? Sure you put a lot into it, but really, that doesn't make validation for a title to be accessible to it.
I have R3 survivor on four characters. It's actually a semi-fun title to get. But it takes work, more work than Koabd as far as I am concerned, seeing as you actually have to consciously be careful about it.

/notsigned

and the OP's arguments regarding other titles are void.

Shadowmoon · Sep 18, 2007, 10:14 PM // 22:14

More work than KoaBD, i call BS, i made a surviver paragon, at lvl 1 had max armor, thanks to ferry to dock, every skill i needed for my build, thanks to tomes. Made it to Lutz for the FFF at lvl 12 from runners and friends, then Hero FFF to r3. The title is really easy, the easiest to get imo when you focus on it, easer to get than protector even...
I just want my main to have excess, y do i have to delite him complete to have excess to it. Mb they should change protector that is u don't get bonus on first try, then u have to delite ur character then start again. I just want access, not a title given to me, access.

FelixCarter · Sep 19, 2007, 12:55 AM // 00:55

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

Oh god. Quit the QQ fest.
Who cares about your main? Sure you put a lot into it, but really, that doesn't make validation for a title to be accessible to it.
I have R3 survivor on four characters. It's actually a semi-fun title to get. But it takes work, more work than Koabd as far as I am concerned, seeing as you actually have to consciously be careful about it.
/notsigned
and the OP's arguments regarding other titles are void.

EDIT: Edited because I'm laughing my ass off.